אלעאי

El'azar [(the Elder)] is the father of Rabbi Yehuda, and he is a Tanna, a student of Rabbi Eliezer in the chapter of Pesin [Mishnah 6 (23a). In the Mishnah, Rabbi El'azar said, "I heard from Rabbi Eliezer" (it should be Eliezer, and so it is written in the passage 26a), and I reviewed all his students to see if they heard from him, and I did not find a companion for myself. And the Tosafot wrote (26b) that it is taught in Pesachim (39a) that until I came to Rabbi El'azar ben Yaakov, he acknowledged my words.

Although Rabbi Yehuda ben Ilai was a student of Rabbi Akiva, Rabbi El'azar lived many days]. In the second chapter of Sukkah [(27b), he went to greet his teacher Rabbi El'azar on the festival in Lod. And Rabbi El'azar said to him, "El'azar, you are not one who rejoices in the festival," for Rabbi El'azar praised the lazy ones who do not go out from their homes on the festival. Do not let your heart be misled, for he went to greet Rabbi El'azar ben Shamua, and Rabbi El'azar ben Shamua said, "Of Rabbi El'azar, I praise the lazy ones," this is Rabbi El'azar the Great, son of Horcanus.

This means that Rabbi El'azar the Great was the teacher of Rabbi El'azar.

However, the Gemara is vague, and the arranger brought that it was Rabbi El'azar, meaning that Rabbi El'azar the Great was accustomed to say, "I praise the lazy ones." And likewise, in every place he said, he would say, meaning he was accustomed to say so, and so it is in the first chapter of Avot, he would say, etc., that he was accustomed to say this, meaning what Rabbi El'azar said, "You are not one who rejoices in the festival," as if he said to him, "But I am accustomed to say, 'I praise the lazy ones,' etc."] And in the chapter of the Mincha Offering [(18a), Rabbi Yehuda, the son of Rabbi El'azar, and Rabbi El'azar is a student of Rabbi Eliezer. And he is called Elder in Chagigah (16a), Makkot (17), and Kiddushin (40a)].

Rabbi El'azar the Elder said, "If you see that the evil inclination is strengthening against you, go to a place where they do not recognize you." And he would go after Rabbi Gamliel [(of Yavneh) and he found Rabbi Gamliel in a certain place and said to him, "El'azar, take..." (see there)]. He presented before Rabbi El'azar and Rabbi Yehoshua [Pesachim (38b). He asked Rabbi Yehoshua and Rabbi El'azar and presented the matter before Rabbi El'azar ben Azariah, Tosefta Chalah, chapter 1].

It is written in the genealogies in Seder HaDoros concerning Rabbi Yochanan ben Rabbi Elai that Rabbi Elai was a colleague of Rabbi Yishmael. In the first chapter of Gittin, a certain individual came before Rabbi Yishmael and Rabbi Elai, and I find it difficult how Rabbi Elai, who is the father of Rabbi Yehuda, and Rabbi Yehuda is the teacher of Rabbi, posed a question from a Mishnah that Rabbi derived from the statement of Rabbi Meir, which is later than Rabbi Yishmael.

Furthermore, Rabbi Meir was a student of Rabbi Yishmael.

Additionally, it appears from there that Rabbi Yishmael is greater than Rabbi Elai, for he called him Rabbi, while Rabbi Yishmael referred to him as "my son." Afterwards, I found in the Tosefta of Gittin this incident, and Rabbi Elai was not mentioned in relation to Rabbi Meir, and this seems correct to me. The Tosefta states: "There was an incident involving a man from the village of Sisi who brought a get before Rabbi Yishmael.

He said to him, 'You too need to say "in my presence" and "in my presence,"' and he did not require witnesses. After the man left, Rabbi Elai entered before him and said, 'Rabbi, is it not true that the village of Sisi is within the boundaries of Eretz Yisrael, closer to Tzipori than to Akko?' He replied, 'Since the matter was permitted, it is valid.'" In order for you to understand the matter, I will bring you the language of the Gemara in the first chapter of Gittin (6a): "There was a certain man who brought a get before Rabbi Yishmael.

He said to him, 'I need to say 'in my presence' and 'in my presence.' He said to him, 'My son, from where are you?' He said, 'From the village of Sisi.' He said, 'You need to say 'in my presence' and 'in my presence' so that you do not require witnesses.' After the man left, Rabbi Elai entered before him and said, 'Rabbi, is it not true that the village of Sisi...?' And we learned that Rabbi Meir says... He said to him, 'Be quiet, my son...' And the Gemara asks, 'But Rabbi Yishmael says that you do not require witnesses (and not because it is necessary, and what is the difficulty for Rabbi Elai?)' And it answers that they did not finish in front of him (of Rabbi Elai, regarding the conclusion of the matter of Rabbi Yishmael).

Now, I did not understand his words when he said, 'And it is difficult how Rabbi Elai posed a question from a Mishnah that Rabbi derived from the statement of Rabbi Meir, which is later than Rabbi Yishmael, and Rabbi Yehuda ben Rabbi Elai was the teacher of Rabbi.' What does Rabbi want here, and who is mentioned? And did not Rabbi arrange the Mishnahs before Rabbi Meir's statements were known?

If his question is what he asked from Rabbi Meir to Rabbi Yishmael, who is the student of Rabbi Yishmael, why did he write, 'And furthermore, Rabbi Meir was a student of Rabbi Yishmael?' Moreover, he sought to prove that Rabbi Elai was a colleague of Rabbi Yishmael, for in the first chapter of Gittin, a certain individual came before Rabbi Yishmael and Rabbi Elai, meaning that this individual came before both of them and asked his matter before them, which indicates that they were equal and colleagues. For indeed, he asked Rabbi Yishmael if he needs to say 'in my presence' and 'in my presence,' and after that individual left, Rabbi Elai entered before him, as mentioned above.

And Rabbi Elai called Rabbi Yishmael 'Rabbi,' and Rabbi Yishmael called him 'my son,' which indicates that Rabbi Yishmael was the teacher of Rabbi Elai, as he himself stated. And regarding the difficulty of how he poses a question from Rabbi Meir, his student, on Rabbi Yishmael, his teacher, he overlooked what I wrote in the principles that it is indeed the way of the Talmud that sometimes a student poses a question to his teacher, for it is assumed that what the student says he heard from his teacher.

Therefore, the answer is correct that Rabbi Yishmael also holds as Rabbi Meir stated that he does not need to (require witnesses), but they did not finish in front of him. And why does he find it correct that the Tosefta does not mention Rabbi Elai in relation to Rabbi Meir? The world follows these three sages: Rabbi Elai at the beginning of the shearing, and Rabbi Yashiyah, and Rabbi Yochanan ben Rabbi Elai, perhaps he is his son.